http://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr14.php

Iraq Body Count Press Release 16 October 2006
Reality checks: some responses to the latest Lancet estimates
Hamit Dardagan, John Sloboda, and Josh Dougherty
Summary

A new study has been released by the Lancet medical journal estimating over 650,000 excess deaths in Iraq. The Iraqi mortality estimates published in the Lancet in October 2006 imply, among other things, that:

1. On average, a thousand Iraqis have been violently killed every single day in the first half of 2006, with less than a tenth of them being noticed by any public surveillance mechanisms;
2. Some 800,000 or more Iraqis suffered blast wounds and other serious conflict-related injuries in the past two years, but less than a tenth of them received any kind of hospital treatment;
3. Over 7% of the entire adult male population of Iraq has already been killed in violence, with no less than 10% in the worst affected areas covering most of central Iraq;
4. Half a million death certificates were received by families which were never officially recorded as having been issued;
5. The Coalition has killed far more Iraqis in the last year than in earlier years containing the initial massive "Shock and Awe" invasion and the major assaults on Falluja.

If these assertions are true, they further imply:

* incompetence and/or fraud on a truly massive scale by Iraqi officials in hospitals and ministries, on a local, regional and national level, perfectly coordinated from the moment the occupation began;
* bizarre and self-destructive behaviour on the part of all but a small minority of 800,000 injured, mostly non-combatant, Iraqis;
* the utter failure of local or external agencies to notice and respond to a decimation of the adult male population in key urban areas;
* an abject failure of the media, Iraqi as well as international, to observe that Coalition-caused events of the scale they reported during the three-week invasion in 2003 have been occurring every month for over a year.

In the light of such extreme and improbable implications, a rational alternative conclusion to be considered is that the authors have drawn conclusions from unrepresentative data. In addition, totals of the magnitude generated by this study are unnecessary to brand the invasion and occupation of Iraq a human and strategic tragedy.

The answer to the question is NO! That's why another senior Republican senator has joined Warner in saying we need a new strategy.

Like Vietnam, the only way this war will end is when congress cuts off funding.

Excuse me, but if it's not stay the course it's cut and run. Pretty clearly. Well, it's not actually. It's having a brain. I sure don't like living in a country with people so stupid and so concerned with persobal safety they'd hand the reins over to a dry-drunk paranoid asshole. Buy. I'm so scared I''m reading My Pet Goat. It'the human race assholes. But a dry-drrunk paranoid asshole is exactly what Kommissar Karl was looking for.

Why can't the President come up with a new alternative policy? He's the Decider. This commission is just giving Bush cover with his 'cut and run' hating supporters.

Cheney has already made the decision that war with Iran is a far more lucrative profit opportunity for Halliburton. But they have to find a "bi-partisan" way to leave Iraq.

Looks like Spunky is walking away from another commission and not serving time as he promised. I wanted listen to him, Mr. Iraqi Prime Minister. He lies.

Events in Iraq WILL NOT determine America's destiny. It is time for the Iraqis to earn their own freedom, earn their own democracy, and earn their own sovereignty. It is time for America to start fighting the real "War On Terror".

Saudi Arabia is the central front in the War On Terror.
Mississippi is the central front in the War On Poverty.

The commission will not release it's findings until after the election.

Then why are they all over the tube talking like they are going to suggest "changing the course?" If they have something they want to say, why aren't they saying it now?

I'm sick of all these cagey, old men politicans sitting on their hands while our troops are being blown to bits by IUD's and snipers. They have been interviewing the usual suspects for nine months now.

Quit playing politics and give the voters the truth before the election, if that's even what you are really going to ultimately offer us.

I give up on you,Wolf.Every single thread has that long azz month old Op-Ed.

Why?

(shaking my head laughing)

Our president has shamed every American Arm Force
person past present and furture.Made a mockery of Freedom and Liberity.We may as well walk off from Iraq,because we can not give something we do not have Freedom. What you say we are free not if you cross the wrong man he can have you put in prisson and not tell you or anyone else why or see that you have a fair trial.Becareful do not cross that one man!

Gosh, Syria and Iran want to replace us in Iraq to help fix the place up and our closeminded leaders cant see the tremendous value of accepting that?

It is just as stupid as their resistance to Venezuela and North Korea joining the UN Security Counsel.

And Don Really? Do you really see permanently locking up 22 admittedly bad people for the duration of a war while he gets the congress and courts to decide how to deal with them as a challenge to your civil rights?
When will we all see that the terrorists are the bad guy. Not Bush, Not Clinton, Not any American Leader or Manager, The people who round up 40 - 60 people and drill holes in them till they are dead then kick them out into the street are the bad guys. They were killing our people back when Carter was the pres and they are doing it right now, and not just us, Look at India and Spain and England and the Phillipene and African stuf fthey have done in the last decade. They hate you and want you dead. They dont care if you feel sorry for them or comiserate with them, they want you and your children dead.
You were free enough to write bad stuff about your leader, right or wrong as it might be. They would Kill you for saying the same stuff about them.
Be an American. Not a Liberal. Be an American Not a Republican, or Democrat or whatever.
Democrat leaders have voted consistently FOR every piece of this war, then walked out of the session and badmouthed it for people like you so that you would vote for them. Bush isn't perfect by a long stretch, but at least he says what he really believes and follows through with it.
Democrat leaders have never walked the talk since this awfull thing began.